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Re: Best virtual space for captioning break-out rooms #Captioning #zoom #ZoomCaptions

Alan Katsura, Moderator, CA Diablo Valley Chapter
 

Initial investigation into Meet and Team seems to have the same results - neither specifically says captions are unavailable in breakout rooms, but instructions and features available lend credence to their unavailability.
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Alan Katsura
akatsura@...
Moderator HLAA Tech Group
Re: Best virtual space for captioning break-out rooms #Captioning #zoom #ZoomCaptions

Ann Thomas, HLAA Brand Ambassador
 

Thanks for the tip!

I contacted Zoom yesterday and requested breakout room captions be activated for the HLAA Diablo Valley Chapter Zoom account. Let's see what happens.

Ann Thomas
Re: Best virtual space for captioning break-out rooms #Captioning #zoom #ZoomCaptions

Alan Katsura, Moderator, CA Diablo Valley Chapter
 

Sara, let us know what Zoom says. This is their support article on captioning in breakout rooms. Do not confuse breakout rooms with Zoom Rooms. They are not the same.

Managing manual captioning – Zoom Support

A brief summary of what you may be interested in:
Breakout rooms do not support ASR (Live Transcription).
Only one person can be assigned to caption a meeting, so the main meeting room and breakout rooms cannot have captions simultaneously. 
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Alan Katsura
akatsura@...
Moderator HLAA Tech Group
Re: Best virtual space for captioning break-out rooms #Captioning #zoom #ZoomCaptions

Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California
 

Thanks so much Arlene. I didn't realize that Zoom could do that. That's very helpful information.
Sara Oser
Re: Projector to use with iPad for slide presentations

John Woodgate
 

There are newer connection systems than HDMI, but it is possible to get adaptor devices that convert HDMI to a newer system.

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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-01-24 00:25, Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California via hlaagroups.hearingloss.org wrote:

Thanks for the information Bob.  I have connected an ipad to a projector using an HDMI cable (I think), and that worked.  As we know, the technology can be different on whatever system we are using.  We always have to test things out ahead of time. I did find a projector another organization uses in the room I will be in, so I have to go there and try it out.
Sara Oser

Re: Best virtual space for captioning break-out rooms #Captioning #zoom #ZoomCaptions

Arlene Romoff, NJ
 

Zoom can provide captioning in their breakout rooms - they just don’t enable them unless insisted on. You can contact Zoom and tell them you need captioning for breakout rooms, and tell them to enable this feature in your Zoom account.

This is what happened here in NJ when a group from Rutgers had breakout rooms and complained to Zoom that it needed to caption them but their account didn’t have that capability.
Zoom changed their account to allow the auto captioning in the breakout rooms as well as the regular part.

So tell them you need it.

Outrageous? Yes - but speak up and don’t take no for an answer.

Arlene Romoff 

On Jan 23, 2023, at 7:35 PM, Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California via hlaagroups.hearingloss.org <saraoser=aol.com@...> wrote:

We would like to have a virtual Kaffee Klatch using breakout rooms so that people could get to know each other in small groups.  They would spend maybe 6 minutes in a group and would progress through 3 or 4 groups during the meeting. We need captions in the break out rooms, and do not want to hire remote captioners for each room due to cost. What are your thoughts on implementing this get together?

What system could we use to caption the breakout rooms?
Zoom
Google Meet
Microsoft Teams

Thank you,
Sara Oser
HLAA North Bay of CA
415-710-7281
Best virtual space for captioning break-out rooms #Captioning #zoom #ZoomCaptions

Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California
 

We would like to have a virtual Kaffee Klatch using breakout rooms so that people could get to know each other in small groups.  They would spend maybe 6 minutes in a group and would progress through 3 or 4 groups during the meeting. We need captions in the break out rooms, and do not want to hire remote captioners for each room due to cost. What are your thoughts on implementing this get together?

What system could we use to caption the breakout rooms?
Zoom
Google Meet
Microsoft Teams

Thank you,
Sara Oser
HLAA North Bay of CA
415-710-7281
Re: Projector to use with iPad for slide presentations

Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California
 

Thanks for the information Bob.  I have connected an ipad to a projector using an HDMI cable (I think), and that worked.  As we know, the technology can be different on whatever system we are using.  We always have to test things out ahead of time. I did find a projector another organization uses in the room I will be in, so I have to go there and try it out.
Sara Oser
Re: Projector to use with iPad for slide presentations

Robert Hall, CA Peninsula Chapter
 

Sara
We last bought a projector for our meetings about five years ago.  We haven’t used it in years (Pandemic).  But I did check the size of the wall mounted screen and looked to find a projector that would fill it.  I cannot remember what brand we bought, but you could find out the screen size and look on the web for projectors that will cover that area.

I’ve never connected up my iPad to a projector, although I have adaptors to do so.  That is complicated if you have the new MI or M2 chip in your iPad.  I’d want to make sure I had the correct adaptors to connect to a projector.  The Apple Store could probably help you.


Bob Hall
Co- President, Peninsula Chapter, HLAA

On Dec 19, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California via hlaagroups.hearingloss.org <saraoser=aol.com@...> wrote:

I have a January presentation in a meeting room in a restaurant.  I'll be talking about communication tips based on the HLAA tip cards. There is a microphone and screen.  What make and model of projector do you recommend I use with my iPad  so that the image is as large as possible?

Thank you.
Sara Oser
HLAA NB President 
415.710.7281
president@...

Re: Projector to use with iPad for slide presentations

Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California
 

Thanks John. That's helpful.
Sara Oser
Re: Projector to use with iPad for slide presentations

Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California
 

Thanks for the explanation, Carol. Now I get it.  That's very helpful.
Sara Oser
Re: Projector to use with iPad for slide presentations

Carol in Boston
 

A digital screen. Your computer has a monitor. That’s the built-in screen that is the major visible part of the computer. With the popularity of laptops many people use their computers with supplementary monitors, most commonly 28 inches diagonally. But the monitors used for presentations are like jumbo TV screens. They are far more commonly used than the screens used with film projectors. 

Carol 

On Dec 19, 2022, at 7:23 PM, Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California via hlaagroups.hearingloss.org <saraoser=aol.com@...> wrote:

Thanks Carol.  What's a monitor?

Re: Projector to use with iPad for slide presentations

John Woodgate
 

Usually now called a 'display'. Like a TV, but takes video from a computer.

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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2022-12-20 00:23, Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California via hlaagroups.hearingloss.org wrote:

Thanks Carol.  What's a monitor?

Re: Projector to use with iPad for slide presentations

Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California
 

Thanks Carol.  What's a monitor?
Re: Projector to use with iPad for slide presentations

Carol in Boston
 

If there’s any chance the restaurant has a monitor that will be much better than a projector and screen. Many places that rent venues do provide monitors.

On Dec 19, 2022, at 7:13 PM, Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California via hlaagroups.hearingloss.org <saraoser=aol.com@...> wrote:

I have a January presentation in a meeting room in a restaurant.  I'll be talking about communication tips based on the HLAA tip cards. There is a microphone and screen.  What make and model of projector do you recommend I use with my iPad  so that the image is as large as possible?

Thank you.
Sara Oser
HLAA NB President 
415.710.7281
president@...

Projector to use with iPad for slide presentations

Sara Oser, President, HLAA North Bay of California
 

I have a January presentation in a meeting room in a restaurant.  I'll be talking about communication tips based on the HLAA tip cards. There is a microphone and screen.  What make and model of projector do you recommend I use with my iPad  so that the image is as large as possible?

Thank you.
Sara Oser
HLAA NB President 
415.710.7281
president@...
Re: OTC Hearing Aids WITH Telecoils

Michelle Gross, HLAA Rochester
 

To qualify as an OTC Hearing Aid certain guidelines have to be followed such as limiting gain to avoid over amplification, limiting the depth that the "ear mold" or ear piece can be inserted into the ear, and must have a user controlled audio control (unlike the "automatic" control feature with some prescription hearing aids). They also have to meet some standards regarding sound distortion and a few other "must haves". The OTCs also have to have certain labeling information for health and safety.

PSAP are not "medical devices" and because of that are not regulated and are more likely to pose a danger to the user.

Having said all of that there needs to be oversight to be sure the guidelines are followed, so it remains to be seen how users feel about the ability to have OTC aids, most are kind of "bare bones" but for those who otherwise would need to go without, they may have a place. Time will tell.

Michelle Gross

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022, 03:35:05 PM EST, Barbara Cooledge <cooledgebb@...> wrote:


You are right. We will only know in five years.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:57 PM John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:

If you search on-line, you will find that everything is deemed unsafe by someone.

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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2022-11-27 00:41, Barbara Cooledge wrote:
I’ve heard it may not be safe from two sources on-line. Sounds like it is just a problem if they are turned up too loud. And, supporters believe that the risk is worth it if it wards off diabetes, dementia, heart problems, etc. ?


On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 2:37 PM John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:

It is deeply disturbing to learn that an audiologist says that 'OTC hearing aids are not safe'. It is a totally unscientific generalization. It is possible that ANY hearing aid could cause additional hearing loss. This is if it delivers a too loud sound, causing 'ringing in the ears' and that warning sign is ignored.  Dispensed hearing aids should be set so that is cannot occur, but certainly my dispensed hearing aids can be set to 'play too loud for comfort'. Just don't do it! If you hear sound 'in your ear' rather than 'out in the room', the sound is too loud, so turn it down.

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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2022-11-18 04:23, Barbara Cooledge wrote:
What is the $2,500.00? My husband’s aids were under $1,800.00 at Costco and they had the booth and technician and custom hearing exam. Not over-the-counter and not covered by insurance e except for initial examination. So, I am wondering, do over the counter just amplify? Or do you test yourself and customize your custom over-the-counter devices using your computer?
I’m just curious probably because my husband is losing his hearing. Does not have minor hearing loss.
An audiologist said on her site that over-the-counter are not safe. So is HLAA in the proper position on this? Could be a disaster?
Barbara
Re: OTC Hearing Aids WITH Telecoils

Barbara Cooledge
 

You are right. We will only know in five years.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:57 PM John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:

If you search on-line, you will find that everything is deemed unsafe by someone.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2022-11-27 00:41, Barbara Cooledge wrote:
I’ve heard it may not be safe from two sources on-line. Sounds like it is just a problem if they are turned up too loud. And, supporters believe that the risk is worth it if it wards off diabetes, dementia, heart problems, etc. ?


On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 2:37 PM John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:

It is deeply disturbing to learn that an audiologist says that 'OTC hearing aids are not safe'. It is a totally unscientific generalization. It is possible that ANY hearing aid could cause additional hearing loss. This is if it delivers a too loud sound, causing 'ringing in the ears' and that warning sign is ignored.  Dispensed hearing aids should be set so that is cannot occur, but certainly my dispensed hearing aids can be set to 'play too loud for comfort'. Just don't do it! If you hear sound 'in your ear' rather than 'out in the room', the sound is too loud, so turn it down.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2022-11-18 04:23, Barbara Cooledge wrote:
What is the $2,500.00? My husband’s aids were under $1,800.00 at Costco and they had the booth and technician and custom hearing exam. Not over-the-counter and not covered by insurance e except for initial examination. So, I am wondering, do over the counter just amplify? Or do you test yourself and customize your custom over-the-counter devices using your computer?
I’m just curious probably because my husband is losing his hearing. Does not have minor hearing loss.
An audiologist said on her site that over-the-counter are not safe. So is HLAA in the proper position on this? Could be a disaster?
Barbara
Re: OTC Hearing Aids WITH Telecoils

John Woodgate
 

If you search on-line, you will find that everything is deemed unsafe by someone.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2022-11-27 00:41, Barbara Cooledge wrote:

I’ve heard it may not be safe from two sources on-line. Sounds like it is just a problem if they are turned up too loud. And, supporters believe that the risk is worth it if it wards off diabetes, dementia, heart problems, etc. ?


On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 2:37 PM John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:

It is deeply disturbing to learn that an audiologist says that 'OTC hearing aids are not safe'. It is a totally unscientific generalization. It is possible that ANY hearing aid could cause additional hearing loss. This is if it delivers a too loud sound, causing 'ringing in the ears' and that warning sign is ignored.  Dispensed hearing aids should be set so that is cannot occur, but certainly my dispensed hearing aids can be set to 'play too loud for comfort'. Just don't do it! If you hear sound 'in your ear' rather than 'out in the room', the sound is too loud, so turn it down.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2022-11-18 04:23, Barbara Cooledge wrote:
What is the $2,500.00? My husband’s aids were under $1,800.00 at Costco and they had the booth and technician and custom hearing exam. Not over-the-counter and not covered by insurance e except for initial examination. So, I am wondering, do over the counter just amplify? Or do you test yourself and customize your custom over-the-counter devices using your computer?
I’m just curious probably because my husband is losing his hearing. Does not have minor hearing loss.
An audiologist said on her site that over-the-counter are not safe. So is HLAA in the proper position on this? Could be a disaster?
Barbara
Re: OTC Hearing Aids WITH Telecoils

Barbara Cooledge
 

I’ve heard it may not be safe from two sources on-line. Sounds like it is just a problem if they are turned up too loud. And, supporters believe that the risk is worth it if it wards off diabetes, dementia, heart problems, etc. ?


On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 2:37 PM John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:

It is deeply disturbing to learn that an audiologist says that 'OTC hearing aids are not safe'. It is a totally unscientific generalization. It is possible that ANY hearing aid could cause additional hearing loss. This is if it delivers a too loud sound, causing 'ringing in the ears' and that warning sign is ignored.  Dispensed hearing aids should be set so that is cannot occur, but certainly my dispensed hearing aids can be set to 'play too loud for comfort'. Just don't do it! If you hear sound 'in your ear' rather than 'out in the room', the sound is too loud, so turn it down.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2022-11-18 04:23, Barbara Cooledge wrote:
What is the $2,500.00? My husband’s aids were under $1,800.00 at Costco and they had the booth and technician and custom hearing exam. Not over-the-counter and not covered by insurance e except for initial examination. So, I am wondering, do over the counter just amplify? Or do you test yourself and customize your custom over-the-counter devices using your computer?
I’m just curious probably because my husband is losing his hearing. Does not have minor hearing loss.
An audiologist said on her site that over-the-counter are not safe. So is HLAA in the proper position on this? Could be a disaster?
Barbara
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