Date   

Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

Julie Olson HLAA in Wisconsin/Appleton
 

I’m using a 6 month old Lenovo laptop.

 

Julie

 

From: HLAATech@groups.io [mailto:HLAATech@groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Odio
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:57 AM
To: HLAATech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

Julie, what device are you using for this zoom? (Of course can't move captions on iPad or iPhone, to my knowledge)
I noticed zoom puts out updates...sometimes several a week. So I would just be sure you have the latest at (PC or Mac) at: Mac or PC Zoom Version Update
--

Carolyn J. Odio

Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 

Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503

 

 

 


Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

Sorry...I don't know how to edit my posts...
So, in my case I go to the Apple Icon (Mac), click on that and then on "About..." to update my operating system. The previous note was to update your browser (smile). So update both items!
--
Carolyn J. Odio
Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 

 

 


Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

Julie, the other thing that makes a big difference is to update your operating system! Usually you go to the upper left corner, click on the icon (such as Chrome, Safari, Firefox etc) and click on "About" Usually you can update it there.
--
Carolyn J. Odio
Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 

 

 


Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

Julie, what device are you using for this zoom? (Of course can't move captions on iPad or iPhone, to my knowledge)
I noticed zoom puts out updates...sometimes several a week. So I would just be sure you have the latest at (PC or Mac) at: Mac or PC Zoom Version Update
--
Carolyn J. Odio
Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 

 

 


Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

Julie Olson HLAA in Wisconsin/Appleton
 

It worked for me, but only up or down. I could not move the captions to the side.  Up worked better than down for me.

 

From: HLAATech@groups.io [mailto:HLAATech@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rich Osborne
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 10:22 AM
To: HLAATech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

I have tried this and it does not work for me. When I put the cursor over the captions, it changes to a hand so I expected to be able to move the caption but it does not have any effect. I have tried several things - all to no avail. I am running Windows 10 and was told it might be an Apple-only feature.


Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

Captions Tip:
I use the "Show Subtitles" option for the Speaker View in Zoom. I turn off the captions "Hide Subtitles" and use the "View Full Transcript" for the Gallery View in Zoom. This is useful for Gallery View as it identifies the person talking.
--
Carolyn J. Odio
Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 

 

 


Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

D Brooks
 


The feature I spoke of is on my laptop that is running windows.  Make sure you are running the latest version of zoom.  If that doesn’t fix it I am not sure what the problem is especially since the white hand appears and yet you cannot drag it to another location. 

Dan 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:22 AM Rich Osborne <richosborne@...> wrote:
I have tried this and it does not work for me. When I put the cursor over the captions, it changes to a hand so I expected to be able to move the caption but it does not have any effect. I have tried several things - all to no avail. I am running Windows 10 and was told it might be an Apple-only feature.

--
Best Always,
Dan

Daniel Brooks
HLAA New York State Association
President

HLAA Rochester Chapter 
Board Member and Past President

Healthy Living with Hearing Loss (HL2)
Co-Chair

Cell/text: 585-704-8191
HLAA NYSA Website: https://nyhearingloss.org/
HLAA Rochester Chapter Website: www.hearinglossrochester.org
HL2 Website: http://www.HL2.urmc.edu 


Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

D Brooks
 

I see  👍🏼

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:19 AM Julie Olson <julieo@...> wrote:

Thanks Dan. That isn’t the problem. Moving the captions works great during the live Zoom meeting. I’m referring to the saved for replay one; the recording.  Not possible to move it on that.

 

Julie

 

From: HLAATech@groups.io [mailto:HLAATech@groups.io] On Behalf Of D Brooks
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 9:46 AM
To: HLAATech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

Hi Julie,

 

Zoom about month or so ago gave us the ability to move the caption box.  If you mouse over the caption box with your cursor you will see a white hand appear.  Right click on the caption box and drag it where you want to.  I have found there is no perfect spot to place the caption but the feature is helpful at time.  

 

Hope this helps,

 

Dan Brooks

HLAA New York State Association 

President

 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:40 AM Julie Olson <julieo@...> wrote:

Sharing an experience with Zoom captions:   Last Friday I participated on Mayo Clinic Connect mentor’s discussion. The captions worked well. Everyone was impressed. I think only 3 of the group need them.  The session was recorded so those unable to attend could review it.  On the recording, the captions were all mid screen, mostly across the speaker’s face. Really annoying. The host was set on ‘speaker view’.  Wondering if gallery view would eliminate that issue.  There were 12 people on this conference.

 

Julie Olson 

 

From: HLAATech@groups.io [mailto:HLAATech@groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Odio
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:22 AM
To: HLAATech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

I am attaching a pdf file, so that you can see the Zoom support response and my response to it. This will make it easier for you to enlarge the text. We may be getting some "traction" here...
--

Carolyn J. Odio

Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 

--

Best Always,

Dan

 

Daniel Brooks

HLAA New York State Association

President

 

HLAA Rochester Chapter 

Board Member and Past President

 

Healthy Living with Hearing Loss (HL2)

Co-Chair

 

Cell/text: 585-704-8191

HLAA NYSA Website: https://nyhearingloss.org/

HLAA Rochester Chapter Website: www.hearinglossrochester.org

HL2 Website: http://www.HL2.urmc.edu 

--
Best Always,
Dan

Daniel Brooks
HLAA New York State Association
President

HLAA Rochester Chapter 
Board Member and Past President

Healthy Living with Hearing Loss (HL2)
Co-Chair

Cell/text: 585-704-8191
HLAA NYSA Website: https://nyhearingloss.org/
HLAA Rochester Chapter Website: www.hearinglossrochester.org
HL2 Website: http://www.HL2.urmc.edu 


Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

Rich Osborne
 

I have tried this and it does not work for me. When I put the cursor over the captions, it changes to a hand so I expected to be able to move the caption but it does not have any effect. I have tried several things - all to no avail. I am running Windows 10 and was told it might be an Apple-only feature.


Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

Julie Olson HLAA in Wisconsin/Appleton
 

Thanks Dan. That isn’t the problem. Moving the captions works great during the live Zoom meeting. I’m referring to the saved for replay one; the recording.  Not possible to move it on that.

 

Julie

 

From: HLAATech@groups.io [mailto:HLAATech@groups.io] On Behalf Of D Brooks
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 9:46 AM
To: HLAATech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

Hi Julie,

 

Zoom about month or so ago gave us the ability to move the caption box.  If you mouse over the caption box with your cursor you will see a white hand appear.  Right click on the caption box and drag it where you want to.  I have found there is no perfect spot to place the caption but the feature is helpful at time.  

 

Hope this helps,

 

Dan Brooks

HLAA New York State Association 

President

 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:40 AM Julie Olson <julieo@...> wrote:

Sharing an experience with Zoom captions:   Last Friday I participated on Mayo Clinic Connect mentor’s discussion. The captions worked well. Everyone was impressed. I think only 3 of the group need them.  The session was recorded so those unable to attend could review it.  On the recording, the captions were all mid screen, mostly across the speaker’s face. Really annoying. The host was set on ‘speaker view’.  Wondering if gallery view would eliminate that issue.  There were 12 people on this conference.

 

Julie Olson 

 

From: HLAATech@groups.io [mailto:HLAATech@groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Odio
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:22 AM
To: HLAATech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

I am attaching a pdf file, so that you can see the Zoom support response and my response to it. This will make it easier for you to enlarge the text. We may be getting some "traction" here...
--

Carolyn J. Odio

Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 

--

Best Always,

Dan

 

Daniel Brooks

HLAA New York State Association

President

 

HLAA Rochester Chapter 

Board Member and Past President

 

Healthy Living with Hearing Loss (HL2)

Co-Chair

 

Cell/text: 585-704-8191

HLAA NYSA Website: https://nyhearingloss.org/

HLAA Rochester Chapter Website: www.hearinglossrochester.org

HL2 Website: http://www.HL2.urmc.edu 


Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

D Brooks
 

Hi Julie,

Zoom about month or so ago gave us the ability to move the caption box.  If you mouse over the caption box with your cursor you will see a white hand appear.  Right click on the caption box and drag it where you want to.  I have found there is no perfect spot to place the caption but the feature is helpful at time.  

Hope this helps,

Dan Brooks
HLAA New York State Association 
President

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:40 AM Julie Olson <julieo@...> wrote:

Sharing an experience with Zoom captions:   Last Friday I participated on Mayo Clinic Connect mentor’s discussion. The captions worked well. Everyone was impressed. I think only 3 of the group need them.  The session was recorded so those unable to attend could review it.  On the recording, the captions were all mid screen, mostly across the speaker’s face. Really annoying. The host was set on ‘speaker view’.  Wondering if gallery view would eliminate that issue.  There were 12 people on this conference.

 

Julie Olson 

 

From: HLAATech@groups.io [mailto:HLAATech@groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Odio
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:22 AM
To: HLAATech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

I am attaching a pdf file, so that you can see the Zoom support response and my response to it. This will make it easier for you to enlarge the text. We may be getting some "traction" here...
--

Carolyn J. Odio

Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 

--
Best Always,
Dan

Daniel Brooks
HLAA New York State Association
President

HLAA Rochester Chapter 
Board Member and Past President

Healthy Living with Hearing Loss (HL2)
Co-Chair

Cell/text: 585-704-8191
HLAA NYSA Website: https://nyhearingloss.org/
HLAA Rochester Chapter Website: www.hearinglossrochester.org
HL2 Website: http://www.HL2.urmc.edu 


Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

Julie Olson HLAA in Wisconsin/Appleton
 

Sharing an experience with Zoom captions:   Last Friday I participated on Mayo Clinic Connect mentor’s discussion. The captions worked well. Everyone was impressed. I think only 3 of the group need them.  The session was recorded so those unable to attend could review it.  On the recording, the captions were all mid screen, mostly across the speaker’s face. Really annoying. The host was set on ‘speaker view’.  Wondering if gallery view would eliminate that issue.  There were 12 people on this conference.

 

Julie Olson 

 

From: HLAATech@groups.io [mailto:HLAATech@groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Odio
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:22 AM
To: HLAATech@groups.io
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

I am attaching a pdf file, so that you can see the Zoom support response and my response to it. This will make it easier for you to enlarge the text. We may be getting some "traction" here...
--

Carolyn J. Odio

Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 

Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503

 

 

 


Re: Captions cover Mouth (iPad) Zoom Ticket #8198634 #ZoomCaptions

 

I am attaching a pdf file, so that you can see the Zoom support response and my response to it. This will make it easier for you to enlarge the text. We may be getting some "traction" here...
--
Carolyn J. Odio
Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 

 

 


Re: Zoom Pro Pricing #zoom

 

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:23 AM, Rich Osborne wrote:
Regarding Rich's question: Can someone schedule a meeting and another member start the meeting as host? Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought zoom allows for this. My colleague scheduled a meeting and I joined first (as host) and proceeded to set up the meeting, etc. Click Here

You can enter someone the original host's key (your host key can be found in your profile page, near bottom--see picture below) I am not knowledgeable about all this but I have done it...Here is the info on using the Host Key: Click Here  



My understanding is that you don't have to share ID and password to make this happen...
 
--
Carolyn J. Odio
Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 

 

 


Re: Zoom has incorporated Captions #ZoomCaptions

 

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 08:16 AM, Carolyn Odio wrote:
CLA7v2 neckloop is both a mic and a "headset". Here is the link from Harris Communication saying to contact them re: suggestions (since it is not being produced) Harris Communications
Especially Important to wear it close to your mouth for effectiveness!





 
--
Carolyn J. Odio
Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 

 

 


Re: Zoom Pro Pricing #zoom

Char Sivertson <charlenesivertson@...>
 

To allow captions in all meetings, you can lock that option as the host. It will then not need to be set up for each meeting.

Under ADMIN, select ACCOUNT MANAGEMENT and then ACCOUNT SETTINGS
Then under In Meeting (Advanced), scroll down to Closed Captioning and turn it on and Lock it.
Then also check Enable live transcription service to show transcript on the side panel in-meeting

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:42 AM Rich Osborne <richosborne@...> wrote:
wonderful information. Thank you Dan.


Rich Osborne


From: HLAATech@groups.io <HLAATech@groups.io> on behalf of D Brooks <Dbrooks.hlaa.roc@...>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 10:35 AM
To: HLAATech@groups.io <HLAATech@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Zoom Pro Pricing #zoom
 
Hello Rich,

I will respond to your question...

Our chapter owns two accounts. Since the “free” captions is now live with zoom we plan to go down to one account.  The second account had REV captions on it which we will no longer need or need to pay for since zoom finally release free captioning features.  Anyone can host the meet as long as they have the user name and the password.  

Just a couple things to keep in mind. You cannot have two meetings going on at the same time.  Also when one signs in as the “host” make sure no one else signs in on that account to join the meeting.  Having two people joined in that account to join a meeting can cause issues.  You can always pass host responsibilities to a person in the meeting at anytime during the meeting and you can also assign a co-host.  I do advise that you assign at least one co-host in all meetings.  Doing this will help keep stability in your meeting if the host becomes unstable due to internet issues the Co-host can take over as needed.  Also not only the host can activate the free captions in the meeting.  Once activated participants can opt to turn them on.

Hope this helps,

Dan Brooks
HLAA New York State Association 
President

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 1:23 PM Rich Osborne <richosborne@...> wrote:
Thanks for your reply George. I need additional clarity. How many monthly licenses does your Chapter purchase? Can someone schedule a meeting and another member start the meeting as host? In my case, I suffer frequent power outages. If I schedule the meeting and then be unable to host because of a power outage, who can assume the host role and do we need multiple licenses to accomplish this?


Rich Osborne, VP HLAA North Bay of California

--
Best Always,
Dan

Daniel Brooks
HLAA New York State Association
President

HLAA Rochester Chapter 
Board Member and Past President

Healthy Living with Hearing Loss (HL2)
Co-Chair

Cell/text: 585-704-8191
HLAA NYSA Website: https://nyhearingloss.org/
HLAA Rochester Chapter Website: www.hearinglossrochester.org
HL2 Website: http://www.HL2.urmc.edu 


Re: Zoom Pro Pricing #zoom

Rich Osborne
 

wonderful information. Thank you Dan.


Rich Osborne


From: HLAATech@groups.io <HLAATech@groups.io> on behalf of D Brooks <Dbrooks.hlaa.roc@...>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 10:35 AM
To: HLAATech@groups.io <HLAATech@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Zoom Pro Pricing #zoom
 
Hello Rich,

I will respond to your question...

Our chapter owns two accounts. Since the “free” captions is now live with zoom we plan to go down to one account.  The second account had REV captions on it which we will no longer need or need to pay for since zoom finally release free captioning features.  Anyone can host the meet as long as they have the user name and the password.  

Just a couple things to keep in mind. You cannot have two meetings going on at the same time.  Also when one signs in as the “host” make sure no one else signs in on that account to join the meeting.  Having two people joined in that account to join a meeting can cause issues.  You can always pass host responsibilities to a person in the meeting at anytime during the meeting and you can also assign a co-host.  I do advise that you assign at least one co-host in all meetings.  Doing this will help keep stability in your meeting if the host becomes unstable due to internet issues the Co-host can take over as needed.  Also not only the host can activate the free captions in the meeting.  Once activated participants can opt to turn them on.

Hope this helps,

Dan Brooks
HLAA New York State Association 
President

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 1:23 PM Rich Osborne <richosborne@...> wrote:
Thanks for your reply George. I need additional clarity. How many monthly licenses does your Chapter purchase? Can someone schedule a meeting and another member start the meeting as host? In my case, I suffer frequent power outages. If I schedule the meeting and then be unable to host because of a power outage, who can assume the host role and do we need multiple licenses to accomplish this?


Rich Osborne, VP HLAA North Bay of California

--
Best Always,
Dan

Daniel Brooks
HLAA New York State Association
President

HLAA Rochester Chapter 
Board Member and Past President

Healthy Living with Hearing Loss (HL2)
Co-Chair

Cell/text: 585-704-8191
HLAA NYSA Website: https://nyhearingloss.org/
HLAA Rochester Chapter Website: www.hearinglossrochester.org
HL2 Website: http://www.HL2.urmc.edu 


Re: Zoom Pro Pricing #zoom

D Brooks
 

Hello Rich,

I will respond to your question...

Our chapter owns two accounts. Since the “free” captions is now live with zoom we plan to go down to one account.  The second account had REV captions on it which we will no longer need or need to pay for since zoom finally release free captioning features.  Anyone can host the meet as long as they have the user name and the password.  

Just a couple things to keep in mind. You cannot have two meetings going on at the same time.  Also when one signs in as the “host” make sure no one else signs in on that account to join the meeting.  Having two people joined in that account to join a meeting can cause issues.  You can always pass host responsibilities to a person in the meeting at anytime during the meeting and you can also assign a co-host.  I do advise that you assign at least one co-host in all meetings.  Doing this will help keep stability in your meeting if the host becomes unstable due to internet issues the Co-host can take over as needed.  Also not only the host can activate the free captions in the meeting.  Once activated participants can opt to turn them on.

Hope this helps,

Dan Brooks
HLAA New York State Association 
President

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 1:23 PM Rich Osborne <richosborne@...> wrote:
Thanks for your reply George. I need additional clarity. How many monthly licenses does your Chapter purchase? Can someone schedule a meeting and another member start the meeting as host? In my case, I suffer frequent power outages. If I schedule the meeting and then be unable to host because of a power outage, who can assume the host role and do we need multiple licenses to accomplish this?


Rich Osborne, VP HLAA North Bay of California

--
Best Always,
Dan

Daniel Brooks
HLAA New York State Association
President

HLAA Rochester Chapter 
Board Member and Past President

Healthy Living with Hearing Loss (HL2)
Co-Chair

Cell/text: 585-704-8191
HLAA NYSA Website: https://nyhearingloss.org/
HLAA Rochester Chapter Website: www.hearinglossrochester.org
HL2 Website: http://www.HL2.urmc.edu 


Re: Zoom Pro Pricing #zoom

Rich Osborne
 

Oh, thank you for clearing that up. I searched everywhere and could not find that information.


Rich Osborne


From: HLAATech@groups.io <HLAATech@groups.io> on behalf of Char Sivertson <charlenesivertson@...>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 10:26 AM
To: HLAATech@groups.io <HLAATech@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Zoom Pro Pricing #zoom
 
You don’t need to pay for additional hosts. Just share your login and password with a couple of people who will then be able to go in and set up or start meetings.

Cheers
Chat Sivertson 
HLAA SAN DIEGO

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:23 AM Rich Osborne <richosborne@...> wrote:

Thanks for your reply George. I need additional clarity. How many monthly licenses does your Chapter purchase? Can someone schedule a meeting and another member start the meeting as host? In my case, I suffer frequent power outages. If I schedule the meeting and then be unable to host because of a power outage, who can assume the host role and do we need multiple licenses to accomplish this?


Rich Osborne, VP HLAA North Bay of California


Re: Zoom Pro Pricing #zoom

Char Sivertson <charlenesivertson@...>
 

You don’t need to pay for additional hosts. Just share your login and password with a couple of people who will then be able to go in and set up or start meetings.

Cheers
Chat Sivertson 
HLAA SAN DIEGO

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:23 AM Rich Osborne <richosborne@...> wrote:
Thanks for your reply George. I need additional clarity. How many monthly licenses does your Chapter purchase? Can someone schedule a meeting and another member start the meeting as host? In my case, I suffer frequent power outages. If I schedule the meeting and then be unable to host because of a power outage, who can assume the host role and do we need multiple licenses to accomplish this?


Rich Osborne, VP HLAA North Bay of California

361 - 380 of 515