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Re: Speech to Text Apps

Steve Wonnell
 

Hi all,
Live Transcribe is now available for the iPhone.  I think it’s been out for two months or so.  Unfortunately, it has a $5/mo. subscription fee.  But I’ve been very unhappy with the other that I’ve tried, so I went ahead and got this even though I don’t use that often.  It’s better in my experience than others, but still not perfect.  It can be close though, depending on the quality os speech.
Steve Wonnell
Greater Baltimore chapter


On Oct 9, 2020, at 11:12, D Brooks <Dbrooks.hlaa.roc@...> wrote:



Hello Marilyn,

It sounds like your hearing aids are paired to the iPhone and when you activate an app it is listening through it.  I have resound too and what I do is swipe down the the quick screen where you can turn off Bluetooth, airplane mode, flashlight and other quick features.  There you can tell you hearing aids to disconnect from your app.  If that does not work turn off Bluetooth and that should work.  I’m just concerned it may cause the app to stop working depending what it needs to operate.  

I personally have not found a good speech to text app for the iPhone that I like to use.  I carry a hand me down old android phone without a cell plan.  There has an app called Live Transcribe.  Using that will not interfere with my resound hearing aids since it is paired to my iPhone.  ;)

I know it is one more thing to carry but it is what we have to do sometimes to hear better unfortunately.  :(

Dan

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:44 AM Marilyn Weinhouse, CO via groups.io <Xweinhouse=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have an iPhone and have tried several different speech to text apps. The problem I’m having is whenever I start using the app it turns my hearing aids off (or volume goes way down). Does anyone else have that problem? Any ideas for solution? My hearing aids are ReSound. Thank you!

Marilyn

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Best Always,
Dan

Daniel Brooks
HLAA New York State Association
President

HLAA Rochester Chapter 
Board Member and Past President

Healthy Living with Hearing Loss (HL2)
Co-Chair

Cell/text: 585-704-8191
HLAA NYSA Website: https://nyhearingloss.org/
HLAA Rochester Chapter Website: www.hearinglossrochester.org
HL2 Website: http://www.HL2.urmc.edu 


Re: Speech to Text Apps

D Brooks
 


Hello Marilyn,

It sounds like your hearing aids are paired to the iPhone and when you activate an app it is listening through it.  I have resound too and what I do is swipe down the the quick screen where you can turn off Bluetooth, airplane mode, flashlight and other quick features.  There you can tell you hearing aids to disconnect from your app.  If that does not work turn off Bluetooth and that should work.  I’m just concerned it may cause the app to stop working depending what it needs to operate.  

I personally have not found a good speech to text app for the iPhone that I like to use.  I carry a hand me down old android phone without a cell plan.  There has an app called Live Transcribe.  Using that will not interfere with my resound hearing aids since it is paired to my iPhone.  ;)

I know it is one more thing to carry but it is what we have to do sometimes to hear better unfortunately.  :(

Dan

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:44 AM Marilyn Weinhouse, CO via groups.io <Xweinhouse=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have an iPhone and have tried several different speech to text apps. The problem I’m having is whenever I start using the app it turns my hearing aids off (or volume goes way down). Does anyone else have that problem? Any ideas for solution? My hearing aids are ReSound. Thank you!

Marilyn

--
Best Always,
Dan

Daniel Brooks
HLAA New York State Association
President

HLAA Rochester Chapter 
Board Member and Past President

Healthy Living with Hearing Loss (HL2)
Co-Chair

Cell/text: 585-704-8191
HLAA NYSA Website: https://nyhearingloss.org/
HLAA Rochester Chapter Website: www.hearinglossrochester.org
HL2 Website: http://www.HL2.urmc.edu 


Speech to Text Apps

 

I have an iPhone and have tried several different speech to text apps. The problem I’m having is whenever I start using the app it turns my hearing aids off (or volume goes way down). Does anyone else have that problem? Any ideas for solution? My hearing aids are ReSound. Thank you!

Marilyn


Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code #ZoomCaptions

 

I did a quick little test with the host and the participant both on v5.3.1. 

Case 1 was the host manually typing the captions, worked acceptably. 

Case 2 was with the WebCaptioner/VoiceMeeter configuration (direct connect audio input, with NO  loudspeaker/microphone) using the Zoom REST API with a YouTube video to generate speech input. 

Case 2a The "Send captions to Zoom only when two full lines of text are available" setting seems to work adequately. However, there was considerably significant time lags between the display of captioning on the WebCaptioner webpage and their display on the Zoom window for both host and participant, too much to be acceptable,  Was unable to identify whether the lag is attributed to WebCaptioner's communication to the Zoom API, or the lag is in the Zoop API itself. I suspect both were contributors. 

Our human CART provider had reported observing highly visible lags between seeing the text on her laptop's  transcription screen vs. when displayed on the Zoom window. I had observed similar lags between the human captioner's StreamText webpage (over Internet) and the Zoom display. The amount of lag is on the verge of unacceptability.      

Case 2b The "Send captions as soon as possible" test was inconclusive. The amount of lag made it difficult to observe for the reported duplicate text bug. The YouTube video had highly rapid speech. I would have spent more time evaluating this case, but decided it was not worth the time.

I was more interested in assessing the likelihood of the bug impacting (CASE 3)  the human CART provider case (before engaging our CART provider to test that case. The preliminary indications point toward the reported bug is not expected to impact this Case 3. Therefore, the next step is to proceed to arranging to test this case. 

 


Case 2b was with "" setting

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:11 PM George Chin Sr <georgechinsr@...> wrote:
I do not have access to AVA/Zoom integration and thus unable to verify the AVA issue.

Hmmm... Version 5.3.1 is a prompted mandatory update. Thus, the most likely scenario is participants will be on the problem version V5.3.1.  It would be difficult, if not virtually impossible to manage which version participants are on. 

Since the work around the bug to rollback to the old Zoom version on the host, the question is what happens when:

    - Host (initiates API token and runs AVA) on the old version
    - Participants (shows captions) on Ver5.3.1

For this coming Saturday's National/California virtual meeting, Carla should test the case of human (non-AVA) captioning, unless she plans to use 1CapApp (sp?).  


Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code #ZoomCaptions

 

I do not have access to AVA/Zoom integration and thus unable to verify the AVA issue.

Hmmm... Version 5.3.1 is a prompted mandatory update. Thus, the most likely scenario is participants will be on the problem version V5.3.1.  It would be difficult, if not virtually impossible to manage which version participants are on. 

Since the work around the bug to rollback to the old Zoom version on the host, the question is what happens when:

    - Host (initiates API token and runs AVA) on the old version
    - Participants (shows captions) on Ver5.3.1

For this coming Saturday's National/California virtual meeting, Carla should test the case of human (non-AVA) captioning, unless she plans to use 1CapApp (sp?).  


Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code #ZoomCaptions

Ann Thomas, HLAA Brand Ambassador
 

I don't know.

Ann


Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code #ZoomCaptions

 

Does the Zoom closed captioning bug impact captioning provided by a human CART stenographer using the REST API token?


Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code #ZoomCaptions

Ann Thomas, HLAA Brand Ambassador
 
Edited

With the new Zoom update if you view Ava in a separate browser window Ava works just fine. It is a Zoom problem. When I reverted to the previous version of Zoom it eliminated the API token integration problem in the latest update.

If anyone else is having this problem  please let  Zoom know.  developersupport@...


Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code #ZoomCaptions

 

Is the bug related to AVA? 

September 21, 2020 version 5.3.0 (52651.0920)  per release notes:
  • Roll-up Closed Captioning
    Closed captioning will now roll up as new captions are added. Users can also move through captioning by dragging the text.

AVA's full transcript typically has dupls. Perhaps this new "roll up" is conflicting?
 


Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code #ZoomCaptions

Ann Thomas, HLAA Brand Ambassador
 
Edited

InnoCaption deskview is in a separate browser window and doesn't actually integrate into Zoom so it shouldn't affect the captions in deskview. Plese let us all know if there are any problems.


Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code #ZoomCaptions

David A Bitters Sr
 

Will this problem occur using InnoCaption Deskview? 

Have a great day.   

On Oct 6, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Ann Thomas, HLAA Brand Ambassador <athomas@...> wrote:

The latest Zoom upgrade  5.3. has a bug and ASR captions intergrated with Zoom do not stream corrrectley. They scroll and repeat. if by chance you updated and have this problem you cn iuninstall and downgrade, which is what I did.

The older Zoom version can be found here:
 
 https://zoom.en.uptodown.com/mac/versions
https://zoom-us-zoom.en.uptodown.com/windows/versions
 
if you have scheduled Zoom meetings and are fearful it will negatively impact the meeting invitations, that did not hpappen when I uninstalled Zoom app. I’m back to 5.2.1 and the captions are not scrolling and repeating.


Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code #ZoomCaptions

Ann Thomas, HLAA Brand Ambassador
 

The latest Zoom upgrade  5.3. has a bug and ASR captions intergrated with Zoom do not stream corrrectley. They scroll and repeat. if by chance you updated and have this problem you cn iuninstall and downgrade, which is what I did.

The older Zoom version can be found here:
 
 https://zoom.en.uptodown.com/mac/versions
https://zoom-us-zoom.en.uptodown.com/windows/versions
 
if you have scheduled Zoom meetings and are fearful it will negatively impact the meeting invitations, that did not hpappen when I uninstalled Zoom app. I’m back to 5.2.1 and the captions are not scrolling and repeating.


Re: Zoom meetings and backup host question

 

You are correct Char, and it is handy to use this setting: with the passcode, which makes for a seamless checkin:

Embed passcode in invite link for one-click join

Meeting passcode will be encrypted and included in the invite link to allow participants to join with just one click without having to enter the passcode.
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Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 

 

 


Re: Zoom meetings and backup host question

Char Sivertson <charlenesivertson@...>
 

Enabling the waiting room automatically disables the setting for allowing participants to join before host. 
So people would have to sign in with a password to use Join Before Host.

Char
San Diego

On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 7:03 AM Ann Thomas, HLAA Brand Ambassador <athomas@...> wrote:
At the moment— people can join before the host or without the host, but only the host can designate co-hosts and has access to the CC feature and API code. 

We had this problem in an HLAA GITHL committee meeting recently. 

I anticipate this feature may go away soon to make the platform more secure.

Ann

On Oct 2, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Carolyn Odio via groups.io <carolyn@...> wrote:

I found this interesting...Zoom actually anticipates this situation in their direct quote...regarding their setting "participants join before host = on"
If you activate this setting, Jaynie has an excellent review of the settings that should be ON to make the meeting a seamless one, without the host. I will let her share it when she is ready to.

"Join before host allows attendees to join the meeting before the host joins or when the host cannot attend the meeting. If you enable join before host, then the participants can join the meeting before the host joins or without the host." etc...


-- 
Carolyn J. Odio
Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 
 
 


Re: Zoom meetings and backup host question

Jaynie Kind, CA Peninsula Chapter
 


Jaynie Kind

On Oct 2, 2020, at 7:03 AM, Ann Thomas, HLAA Brand Ambassador <athomas@...> wrote:

 At the moment— people can join before the host or without the host, but only the host can designate co-hosts and has access to the CC feature and API code. 

We had this problem in an HLAA GITHL committee meeting recently. 

I anticipate this feature may go away soon to make the platform more secure.

Ann

On Oct 2, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Carolyn Odio via groups.io <carolyn@...> wrote:

I found this interesting...Zoom actually anticipates this situation in their direct quote...regarding their setting "participants join before host = on"
If you activate this setting, Jaynie has an excellent review of the settings that should be ON to make the meeting a seamless one, without the host. I will let her share it when she is ready to.

"Join before host allows attendees to join the meeting before the host joins or when the host cannot attend the meeting. If you enable join before host, then the participants can join the meeting before the host joins or without the host." etc...


-- 
Carolyn J. Odio
Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 
 
 


Re: Zoom meetings and backup host question

Ann Thomas, HLAA Brand Ambassador
 

At the moment— people can join before the host or without the host, but only the host can designate co-hosts and has access to the CC feature and API code. 

We had this problem in an HLAA GITHL committee meeting recently. 

I anticipate this feature may go away soon to make the platform more secure.

Ann

On Oct 2, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Carolyn Odio via groups.io <carolyn@...> wrote:

I found this interesting...Zoom actually anticipates this situation in their direct quote...regarding their setting "participants join before host = on"
If you activate this setting, Jaynie has an excellent review of the settings that should be ON to make the meeting a seamless one, without the host. I will let her share it when she is ready to.

"Join before host allows attendees to join the meeting before the host joins or when the host cannot attend the meeting. If you enable join before host, then the participants can join the meeting before the host joins or without the host." etc...


-- 
Carolyn J. Odio
Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 
 
 


Re: Zoom meetings and backup host question

 

Ahh one more thing...here is the zoom link to the quote I just mentioned...

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/202828525-Join-before-host
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Carolyn J. Odio
Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 

 

 


Re: Zoom meetings and backup host question

 

I found this interesting...Zoom actually anticipates this situation in their direct quote...regarding their setting "participants join before host = on"
If you activate this setting, Jaynie has an excellent review of the settings that should be ON to make the meeting a seamless one, without the host. I will let her share it when she is ready to.

"Join before host allows attendees to join the meeting before the host joins or when the host cannot attend the meeting. If you enable join before host, then the participants can join the meeting before the host joins or without the host." etc...


--
Carolyn J. Odio
Resident Council Rep
Hearing Loss Group at www.panorama.org

(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text 
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
 

 

 


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