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Re: Zoom meetings and backup host question
On 10/2/20, Carolyn Odio and I tried using the host key, which is available on your Zoom profile.
1. I sent her a link to a new meeting with a passcode and without recording enabled. I gave her my host key ahead of time. 2. She joined before the meeting started, and was able to get AVA going and start recording. 3. I then joined the meeting. Side note: 4. She made me host and left the meeting. (We wanted to see if AVA would continue captioning even though she was the person who started the captioning.) And it did.
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Speech to Text Apps
Carolyn,
No, I am referring to captioning Zoom meetings, videos, etc.
Dan,
You were right! I just turned off my Bluetooth and when I used a speech-to-text app, the volume on my hearing aids was not turned down! Yay!
Thank you so much!
Marilyn
Marilyn Morse Weinhouse, Secretary
Hearing Loss Association of America - Denver Chapter
720 295-8581
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Re: Speech to Text Apps
For cellphone calls I use InnoCaption (which captions my calls). Is this the situation to which you are referring?
-- Carolyn J. Odio
(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
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Re: Speech to Text Apps
Steve Wonnell
Dear Ann, Ah, yes, you are correct, as I found when I looked deeper just now. You're probably correct about the copyright infringement too. Still, the app works better for me than others have done, including AVA and Microsoft Translator. Live Transcribe on Android is free, and it is amazingly good from what I've seen of it. I'm sure AVA, Microsoft Translator, and others will improve with time, if they continue to be supported. My apologies for any confusion. Steve Wonnell Greater Baltimore Chapter P.S. Here's a link to an article about Live Transcribe for iOS by its creator:
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Re: Speech to Text Apps
The iPhone app you are referring to is not the same app as Gooogle Live Transcribe. Note the different logos.
At some point I imagine Google will address this copyright infringement.
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Re: Speech to Text Apps
Steve Wonnell
Hi all,
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Live Transcribe is now available for the iPhone. I think it’s been out for two months or so. Unfortunately, it has a $5/mo. subscription fee. But I’ve been very unhappy with the other that I’ve tried, so I went ahead and got this even though I don’t use that often. It’s better in my experience than others, but still not perfect. It can be close though, depending on the quality os speech. Steve Wonnell Greater Baltimore chapter
On Oct 9, 2020, at 11:12, D Brooks <Dbrooks.hlaa.roc@...> wrote:
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Re: Speech to Text Apps
D Brooks
Hello Marilyn, It sounds like your hearing aids are paired to the iPhone and when you activate an app it is listening through it. I have resound too and what I do is swipe down the the quick screen where you can turn off Bluetooth, airplane mode, flashlight and other quick features. There you can tell you hearing aids to disconnect from your app. If that does not work turn off Bluetooth and that should work. I’m just concerned it may cause the app to stop working depending what it needs to operate. I personally have not found a good speech to text app for the iPhone that I like to use. I carry a hand me down old android phone without a cell plan. There has an app called Live Transcribe. Using that will not interfere with my resound hearing aids since it is paired to my iPhone. ;) I know it is one more thing to carry but it is what we have to do sometimes to hear better unfortunately. :( Dan
On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:44 AM Marilyn Weinhouse, CO via groups.io <Xweinhouse=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Best Always, Dan HLAA New York State Association President HLAA Rochester Chapter Board Member and Past President Healthy Living with Hearing Loss (HL2) Co-Chair Cell/text: 585-704-8191 E-mail: dbrooks.HLAA.ROC@... HLAA NYSA Website: https://nyhearingloss.org/ HLAA Rochester Chapter Website: www.hearinglossrochester.org
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Speech to Text Apps
I have an iPhone and have tried several different speech to text apps. The problem I’m having is whenever I start using the app it turns my hearing aids off (or volume goes way down). Does anyone else have that problem? Any ideas for solution? My hearing aids are ReSound. Thank you! Marilyn
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Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code
#ZoomCaptions
I did a quick little test with the host and the participant both on v5.3.1. Case 1 was the host manually typing the captions, worked acceptably. Case 2 was with the WebCaptioner/VoiceMeeter
configuration
(direct connect audio input, with NO loudspeaker/microphone) using the Zoom REST API with a YouTube video to generate speech input. Case 2a The "Send captions to Zoom only when two full lines of text are available" setting seems to work adequately. However, there was considerably significant time lags between the display of captioning on the WebCaptioner webpage and their display on the Zoom window for both host and participant, too much to be acceptable, Was unable to identify whether the lag is attributed to WebCaptioner's communication to the Zoom API, or the lag is in the Zoop API itself. I suspect both were contributors. Our human CART provider had reported observing highly visible lags between seeing the text on her
laptop's transcription screen vs. when displayed on the Zoom window. I had observed similar lags between the human captioner's StreamText webpage (over Internet) and the Zoom display. The amount of lag is on the verge of unacceptability. Case 2b The "Send captions as soon as possible" test was inconclusive. The amount of lag made it difficult to observe for the reported duplicate text bug. The YouTube video had highly rapid speech. I would have spent more time evaluating this case, but decided it was not worth the time. I was more interested in assessing the likelihood of the bug impacting (CASE 3) the human CART provider case (before engaging our CART provider to test that case. The preliminary indications point toward the reported bug is not expected to impact this Case 3. Therefore, the next step is to proceed to arranging to test this case. Case 2b was with "" setting
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:11 PM George Chin Sr <georgechinsr@...> wrote:
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Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code
#ZoomCaptions
I do not have access to AVA/Zoom integration and thus unable to verify the AVA issue. Hmmm... Version 5.3.1 is a prompted mandatory update. Thus, the most likely scenario is participants will be on the problem version V5.3.1. It would be difficult, if not virtually impossible to manage which version participants are on. Since the work around the bug to rollback to the old Zoom version on the host, the question is what happens when: - Host (initiates API token and runs AVA) on the old version - Participants (shows captions) on Ver5.3.1 For this coming Saturday's National/California virtual meeting, Carla should test the case of human (non-AVA) captioning, unless she plans to use 1CapApp (sp?).
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Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code
#ZoomCaptions
I don't know.
Ann
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Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code
#ZoomCaptions
Does the Zoom closed captioning bug impact captioning provided by a human CART stenographer using the REST API token?
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Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code
#ZoomCaptions
With the new Zoom update if you view Ava in a separate browser window Ava works just fine. It is a Zoom problem. When I reverted to the previous version of Zoom it eliminated the API token integration problem in the latest update.
If anyone else is having this problem please let Zoom know. developersupport@...
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Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code
#ZoomCaptions
Is the bug related to AVA? September 21, 2020 version 5.3.0 (52651.0920) per release notes:
AVA's full transcript typically has dupls. Perhaps this new "roll up" is conflicting?
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Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code
#ZoomCaptions
InnoCaption deskview is in a separate browser window and doesn't actually integrate into Zoom so it shouldn't affect the captions in deskview. Plese let us all know if there are any problems.
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Re: Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code
#ZoomCaptions
David A Bitters Sr
Will this problem occur using InnoCaption Deskview?
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Have a great day.
On Oct 6, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Ann Thomas, HLAA Brand Ambassador <athomas@...> wrote:
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Do not update to the latest version of Zoom if you use ASR captions and the API code
#ZoomCaptions
The latest Zoom upgrade 5.3. has a bug and ASR captions intergrated with Zoom do not stream corrrectley. They scroll and repeat. if by chance you updated and have this problem you cn iuninstall and downgrade, which is what I did.
The older Zoom version can be found here: https://zoom.en.uptodown.com/mac/versions
https://zoom-us-zoom.en.uptodown.com/windows/versions
if you have scheduled Zoom meetings and are fearful it will negatively impact the meeting invitations, that did not hpappen when I uninstalled Zoom app. I’m back to 5.2.1 and the captions are not scrolling and repeating.
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Re: Zoom meetings and backup host question
You are correct Char, and it is handy to use this setting: with the passcode, which makes for a seamless checkin:
Embed passcode in invite link for one-click joinMeeting passcode will be encrypted and included in the invite link to allow participants to join with just one click without having to enter the passcode.-- Carolyn J. Odio
(703) 725-8292 iPhone/Text
Residence: 1835 Circle LN SE, Apt 425, Lacey, WA 98503
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Re: Zoom meetings and backup host question
Char Sivertson <charlenesivertson@...>
Enabling the waiting room automatically disables the setting for allowing participants to join before host. So people would have to sign in with a password to use Join Before Host. Char San Diego
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 7:03 AM Ann Thomas, HLAA Brand Ambassador <athomas@...> wrote:
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Re: Zoom meetings and backup host question
Jaynie Kind
On Oct 2, 2020, at 7:03 AM, Ann Thomas, HLAA Brand Ambassador <athomas@...> wrote:
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