Devices or Apps that can assist HOH HAM (amateur) radio operators #communication


Alan Katsura, Moderator, CA Diablo Valley Chapter
 

I am interested in compiling a list of devices and smartphone apps that can assist HAM radio operators with hearing loss. This is for handheld as well as mobile and base units. The environment can have a lot of background noise as we are looking at potential disaster conditions. 
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Alan Katsura
akatsura@...
Moderator HLAA Tech Group


John Woodgate
 

I've found, purely as a user, that the BeHear Access and HearLink Plus, with the app, are very useful and versatile. www.WearAndHear.com

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On 2022-01-30 19:10, Alan Katsura, Moderator, CA Diablo Valley Chapter wrote:
I am interested in compiling a list of devices and smartphone apps that can assist HAM radio operators with hearing loss. This is for handheld as well as mobile and base units. The environment can have a lot of background noise as we are looking at potential disaster conditions. 
--
Alan Katsura
akatsura@...
Moderator HLAA Tech Group

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Mary Jarrett
 

My only ideas are code converters or Roger Pen or Roger On microphones which might help with static. 


On Jan 30, 2022, at 2:49 PM, John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:



I've found, purely as a user, that the BeHear Access and HearLink Plus, with the app, are very useful and versatile. www.WearAndHear.com

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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
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On 2022-01-30 19:10, Alan Katsura, Moderator, CA Diablo Valley Chapter wrote:
I am interested in compiling a list of devices and smartphone apps that can assist HAM radio operators with hearing loss. This is for handheld as well as mobile and base units. The environment can have a lot of background noise as we are looking at potential disaster conditions. 
--
Alan Katsura
akatsura@...
Moderator HLAA Tech Group

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Stephen O. Frazier
 

Hi Alan - It's not clear to me from your question just what purpose you are trying to achieve by using a smart phone app.   If the hand held or base ham unit used by a HoH operator is broadcasting sound via a loudspeaker rather than to headphones you might look into the possibility of using a smart phone to monitor what's coming over the speaker using one of these apps:
 
1.  Google's Live Transcribe - If the phone's mike or an extension mic was placed near the speaker on the hand held unit or the loudspeaker of a base unit it might provide a text version of what's being broadcast by the speaker and help a HoH user who didn't understand all of the words heard because of ambient background noise or the same coming from the radio transmitter.  It would also give the ham operator a transcript of the conversation.
 
2.  I use an app called AmiHear to turn my smart phone into an ersatz pocket taker.  It has a feature that does seem to reduce some background sounds.  The maker claims their app has a patented noise suppression algorithm that eliminates background noise.  It, too, would provide an aural transcript that can be referred back to if a word or more is not heard or understood.

3.. There's a similar app called Chatable that I've wanted to try but had no luck downloading.  It's available for iPhones and Android devices when you look on the Apple  App store or Google Play via your computer but when I got to the Play site using my Samsung phone with the intention of downloading Chatable the Chatable app is not to be found.  It  gets a 4.3 rating at Apple Apps but only a 3.0 at Play.
I suspect that lower rating is attributable to poorer quality mics and phones  The Sound Print app offers a sound level meter to all iPHone users because they found all iPhones to have suitably sensitive mics but many android phones can't access that feature because the app's maker has found only "some" android phones have adequately capable mics.
 
I would be interested to learn more about  any apps you find that have applications for your purposes.
 
Regards,
 
 
Stephen O. Frazier, Hearing Loss Support Specialist
 
   
                 
                               Please support the
   GET IN THE HEARING LOOP
                               campaign of the
  Hearing Loss Association of America
 
 

 
            
 
              
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Alan Katsura, Moderator, CA Diablo Valley Chapter" <akatsura@...>
To: HLAATech@...
Subject: [HLAATech] Devices or Apps that can assist HOH HAM (amateur) radio operators #communication
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 11:10:34 -0800

I am interested in compiling a list of devices and smartphone apps that can assist HAM radio operators with hearing loss. This is for handheld as well as mobile and base units. The environment can have a lot of background noise as we are looking at potential disaster conditions. 
--
Alan Katsura
akatsura@...
Moderator HLAA Tech Group




Louise Smith
 

Is there any way to use amihear WITH hearing aids instead of earphones?  I still struggle in all noisy situations and would love to try it if I can connect through my aids that are paired to my iphone.

Louise Smith


On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 7:06 PM Stephen O. Frazier <hlaanm@...> wrote:
Hi Alan - It's not clear to me from your question just what purpose you are trying to achieve by using a smart phone app.   If the hand held or base ham unit used by a HoH operator is broadcasting sound via a loudspeaker rather than to headphones you might look into the possibility of using a smart phone to monitor what's coming over the speaker using one of these apps:
 
1.  Google's Live Transcribe - If the phone's mike or an extension mic was placed near the speaker on the hand held unit or the loudspeaker of a base unit it might provide a text version of what's being broadcast by the speaker and help a HoH user who didn't understand all of the words heard because of ambient background noise or the same coming from the radio transmitter.  It would also give the ham operator a transcript of the conversation.
 
2.  I use an app called AmiHear to turn my smart phone into an ersatz pocket taker.  It has a feature that does seem to reduce some background sounds.  The maker claims their app has a patented noise suppression algorithm that eliminates background noise.  It, too, would provide an aural transcript that can be referred back to if a word or more is not heard or understood.

3.. There's a similar app called Chatable that I've wanted to try but had no luck downloading.  It's available for iPhones and Android devices when you look on the Apple  App store or Google Play via your computer but when I got to the Play site using my Samsung phone with the intention of downloading Chatable the Chatable app is not to be found.  It  gets a 4.3 rating at Apple Apps but only a 3.0 at Play.
I suspect that lower rating is attributable to poorer quality mics and phones  The Sound Print app offers a sound level meter to all iPHone users because they found all iPhones to have suitably sensitive mics but many android phones can't access that feature because the app's maker has found only "some" android phones have adequately capable mics.
 
I would be interested to learn more about  any apps you find that have applications for your purposes.
 
Regards,
 
 
Stephen O. Frazier, Hearing Loss Support Specialist
 
   
                 
                               Please support the
   GET IN THE HEARING LOOP
                               campaign of the
  Hearing Loss Association of America
 
 

 
            
 
              
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Alan Katsura, Moderator, CA Diablo Valley Chapter" <akatsura@...>
To: HLAATech@...
Subject: [HLAATech] Devices or Apps that can assist HOH HAM (amateur) radio operators #communication
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 11:10:34 -0800

I am interested in compiling a list of devices and smartphone apps that can assist HAM radio operators with hearing loss. This is for handheld as well as mobile and base units. The environment can have a lot of background noise as we are looking at potential disaster conditions. 
--
Alan Katsura
akatsura@...
Moderator HLAA Tech Group



oserj@...
 

KJ6UKW de WB6YAY
Alan T Katsura de Jim Oser (husband of Sara Oser, North Bay)

I am an inactive ham radio operator.

I got my license, when I was in seventh grade. I was active in high school on 40 meters, but haven't been active since.

A friend of my parents, W6EJY was very active in the Marin 2 meter repeater, K6GWE.

W6EJY was known as the Electrical Junk Yard. W6EJY took me on 2 meter hunts. Somebody would hide somewhere in Marin, and transmit on 2 meters, then people with 2 meter rigs in their cars would try to find him, using directional antennas.

I don't even have any ham equipment now.

73's,

Jim





Stephen O. Frazier
 

Louise - I do not have an iPHone so I don't know if they have a jack for earbuds or not nor whether the model you have could stream the sound through Bluetooth.  The app is supposed to be compatible with Bluetooth headphones so it would seem like your phone should stream the sound to your hearing aids in place of headphones.
 
If your hearing aids have telecoils and your iPhone has a jack for earbuds then you could use  a neckloop plugged into the phone in place of earbuds.  If you don't have a neckloop they are available online from vendors like www.Diglo.com  Amazon or others.  They retail for $40 to$90..  You can often pick up a used one on Ebay for peanuts.  I recommend getting an amplified version for the extra boost it can give a signal and for the hands free use thanks to the built in mic.
 
Your hearing care provider should be able to tell you if your phone would be compatible with the app so I suggest you download the app on your iPHone and then see your provider to walk you through the process.
 
Regards,
 
Steve
 
Stephen O. Frazier, Hearing Loss Support Specialist
 
   
                 
                               Please support the
   GET IN THE HEARING LOOP
                               campaign of the
  Hearing Loss Association of America
 
 

 
            
 
              
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Louise Smith" <lsmith77025@...>
To: HLAATech@...
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Devices or Apps that can assist HOH HAM (amateur) radio operators #communication
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 20:08:00 -0600

Is there any way to use amihear WITH hearing aids instead of earphones?  I still struggle in all noisy situations and would love to try it if I can connect through my aids that are paired to my iphone.
 
Louise Smith

 

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 7:06 PM Stephen O. Frazier <hlaanm@...> wrote:
Hi Alan - It's not clear to me from your question just what purpose you are trying to achieve by using a smart phone app.   If the hand held or base ham unit used by a HoH operator is broadcasting sound via a loudspeaker rather than to headphones you might look into the possibility of using a smart phone to monitor what's coming over the speaker using one of these apps:
 
1.  Google's Live Transcribe - If the phone's mike or an extension mic was placed near the speaker on the hand held unit or the loudspeaker of a base unit it might provide a text version of what's being broadcast by the speaker and help a HoH user who didn't understand all of the words heard because of ambient background noise or the same coming from the radio transmitter.  It would also give the ham operator a transcript of the conversation.
 
2.  I use an app called AmiHear to turn my smart phone into an ersatz pocket taker.  It has a feature that does seem to reduce some background sounds.  The maker claims their app has a patented noise suppression algorithm that eliminates background noise.  It, too, would provide an aural transcript that can be referred back to if a word or more is not heard or understood.

3.. There's a similar app called Chatable that I've wanted to try but had no luck downloading.  It's available for iPhones and Android devices when you look on the Apple  App store or Google Play via your computer but when I got to the Play site using my Samsung phone with the intention of downloading Chatable the Chatable app is not to be found.  It  gets a 4.3 rating at Apple Apps but only a 3.0 at Play.
I suspect that lower rating is attributable to poorer quality mics and phones  The Sound Print app offers a sound level meter to all iPHone users because they found all iPhones to have suitably sensitive mics but many android phones can't access that feature because the app's maker has found only "some" android phones have adequately capable mics.
 
I would be interested to learn more about  any apps you find that have applications for your purposes.
 
Regards,
 
 
Stephen O. Frazier, Hearing Loss Support Specialist
 
   
                 
                               Please support the
   GET IN THE HEARING LOOP
                               campaign of the
  Hearing Loss Association of America
 
 

 
            
 
              
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Alan Katsura, Moderator, CA Diablo Valley Chapter" <akatsura@...>
To: HLAATech@...
Subject: [HLAATech] Devices or Apps that can assist HOH HAM (amateur) radio operators #communication
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 11:10:34 -0800

I am interested in compiling a list of devices and smartphone apps that can assist HAM radio operators with hearing loss. This is for handheld as well as mobile and base units. The environment can have a lot of background noise as we are looking at potential disaster conditions. 
--
Alan Katsura
akatsura@...
Moderator HLAA Tech Group
 


 

 




Louise Smith
 

It would not be worth it to me unless it will work WITH hearing aids.  Good suggestion to download and try.

Louise Smith


On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 1:51 PM Stephen O. Frazier <hlaanm@...> wrote:
Louise - I do not have an iPHone so I don't know if they have a jack for earbuds or not nor whether the model you have could stream the sound through Bluetooth.  The app is supposed to be compatible with Bluetooth headphones so it would seem like your phone should stream the sound to your hearing aids in place of headphones.
 
If your hearing aids have telecoils and your iPhone has a jack for earbuds then you could use  a neckloop plugged into the phone in place of earbuds.  If you don't have a neckloop they are available online from vendors like www.Diglo.com  Amazon or others.  They retail for $40 to$90..  You can often pick up a used one on Ebay for peanuts.  I recommend getting an amplified version for the extra boost it can give a signal and for the hands free use thanks to the built in mic.
 
Your hearing care provider should be able to tell you if your phone would be compatible with the app so I suggest you download the app on your iPHone and then see your provider to walk you through the process.
 
Regards,
 
Steve
 
Stephen O. Frazier, Hearing Loss Support Specialist
 
   
                 
                               Please support the
   GET IN THE HEARING LOOP
                               campaign of the
  Hearing Loss Association of America
 
 

 
            
 
              
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Louise Smith" <lsmith77025@...>
To: HLAATech@...
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Devices or Apps that can assist HOH HAM (amateur) radio operators #communication
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 20:08:00 -0600

Is there any way to use amihear WITH hearing aids instead of earphones?  I still struggle in all noisy situations and would love to try it if I can connect through my aids that are paired to my iphone.
 
Louise Smith

 

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 7:06 PM Stephen O. Frazier <hlaanm@...> wrote:
Hi Alan - It's not clear to me from your question just what purpose you are trying to achieve by using a smart phone app.   If the hand held or base ham unit used by a HoH operator is broadcasting sound via a loudspeaker rather than to headphones you might look into the possibility of using a smart phone to monitor what's coming over the speaker using one of these apps:
 
1.  Google's Live Transcribe - If the phone's mike or an extension mic was placed near the speaker on the hand held unit or the loudspeaker of a base unit it might provide a text version of what's being broadcast by the speaker and help a HoH user who didn't understand all of the words heard because of ambient background noise or the same coming from the radio transmitter.  It would also give the ham operator a transcript of the conversation.
 
2.  I use an app called AmiHear to turn my smart phone into an ersatz pocket taker.  It has a feature that does seem to reduce some background sounds.  The maker claims their app has a patented noise suppression algorithm that eliminates background noise.  It, too, would provide an aural transcript that can be referred back to if a word or more is not heard or understood.

3.. There's a similar app called Chatable that I've wanted to try but had no luck downloading.  It's available for iPhones and Android devices when you look on the Apple  App store or Google Play via your computer but when I got to the Play site using my Samsung phone with the intention of downloading Chatable the Chatable app is not to be found.  It  gets a 4.3 rating at Apple Apps but only a 3.0 at Play.
I suspect that lower rating is attributable to poorer quality mics and phones  The Sound Print app offers a sound level meter to all iPHone users because they found all iPhones to have suitably sensitive mics but many android phones can't access that feature because the app's maker has found only "some" android phones have adequately capable mics.
 
I would be interested to learn more about  any apps you find that have applications for your purposes.
 
Regards,
 
 
Stephen O. Frazier, Hearing Loss Support Specialist
 
   
                 
                               Please support the
   GET IN THE HEARING LOOP
                               campaign of the
  Hearing Loss Association of America
 
 

 
            
 
              
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Alan Katsura, Moderator, CA Diablo Valley Chapter" <akatsura@...>
To: HLAATech@...
Subject: [HLAATech] Devices or Apps that can assist HOH HAM (amateur) radio operators #communication
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 11:10:34 -0800

I am interested in compiling a list of devices and smartphone apps that can assist HAM radio operators with hearing loss. This is for handheld as well as mobile and base units. The environment can have a lot of background noise as we are looking at potential disaster conditions. 
--
Alan Katsura
akatsura@...
Moderator HLAA Tech Group
 


 

 




Julie Olson HLAA in Wisconsin/Appleton
 

Most of the newer iPhones require a lightning adaptor to plug in a neckloop. I bought my first one at the Verizon store for $30.  Found them on Amazon for $7.  It’s one more accessory, but is well worth it.  I think that new iPhone input jack started with the iPhone 6 or 7, so most now will need that adaptor.

 

Julie Olson

 

From: HLAATech@... <HLAATech@...> On Behalf Of Stephen O. Frazier
Sent: Tuesday, February 1, 2022 1:50 PM
To: HLAATech@...
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Devices or Apps that can assist HOH HAM (amateur) radio operators #communication

 

Louise - I do not have an iPHone so I don't know if they have a jack for earbuds or not nor whether the model you have could stream the sound through Bluetooth.  The app is supposed to be compatible with Bluetooth headphones so it would seem like your phone should stream the sound to your hearing aids in place of headphones.

 

If your hearing aids have telecoils and your iPhone has a jack for earbuds then you could use  a neckloop plugged into the phone in place of earbuds.  If you don't have a neckloop they are available online from vendors like www.Diglo.com  Amazon or others.  They retail for $40 to$90..  You can often pick up a used one on Ebay for peanuts.  I recommend getting an amplified version for the extra boost it can give a signal and for the hands free use thanks to the built in mic.

 

Your hearing care provider should be able to tell you if your phone would be compatible with the app so I suggest you download the app on your iPHone and then see your provider to walk you through the process.

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Stephen O. Frazier, Hearing Loss Support Specialist

 

   

                 

                               Please support the

   GET IN THE HEARING LOOP

                               campaign of the

  Hearing Loss Association of America

 

 

 

 

            

 

              

 



---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Louise Smith" <lsmith77025@...>
To: HLAATech@...
Subject: Re: [HLAATech] Devices or Apps that can assist HOH HAM (amateur) radio operators #communication
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 20:08:00 -0600

Is there any way to use amihear WITH hearing aids instead of earphones?  I still struggle in all noisy situations and would love to try it if I can connect through my aids that are paired to my iphone.

 

Louise Smith

 

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 7:06 PM Stephen O. Frazier <hlaanm@...> wrote:

Hi Alan - It's not clear to me from your question just what purpose you are trying to achieve by using a smart phone app.   If the hand held or base ham unit used by a HoH operator is broadcasting sound via a loudspeaker rather than to headphones you might look into the possibility of using a smart phone to monitor what's coming over the speaker using one of these apps:

 

1.  Google's Live Transcribe - If the phone's mike or an extension mic was placed near the speaker on the hand held unit or the loudspeaker of a base unit it might provide a text version of what's being broadcast by the speaker and help a HoH user who didn't understand all of the words heard because of ambient background noise or the same coming from the radio transmitter.  It would also give the ham operator a transcript of the conversation.

 

2.  I use an app called AmiHear to turn my smart phone into an ersatz pocket taker.  It has a feature that does seem to reduce some background sounds.  The maker claims their app has a patented noise suppression algorithm that eliminates background noise.  It, too, would provide an aural transcript that can be referred back to if a word or more is not heard or understood.


3.. There's a similar app called Chatable that I've wanted to try but had no luck downloading.  It's available for iPhones and Android devices when you look on the Apple  App store or Google Play via your computer but when I got to the Play site using my Samsung phone with the intention of downloading Chatable the Chatable app is not to be found.  It  gets a 4.3 rating at Apple Apps but only a 3.0 at Play.

I suspect that lower rating is attributable to poorer quality mics and phones  The Sound Print app offers a sound level meter to all iPHone users because they found all iPhones to have suitably sensitive mics but many android phones can't access that feature because the app's maker has found only "some" android phones have adequately capable mics.

 

I would be interested to learn more about  any apps you find that have applications for your purposes.

 

Regards,

 

 

Stephen O. Frazier, Hearing Loss Support Specialist

 

   

                 

                               Please support the

   GET IN THE HEARING LOOP

                               campaign of the

  Hearing Loss Association of America

 

 

 

 

            

 

              

 



---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Alan Katsura, Moderator, CA Diablo Valley Chapter" <akatsura@...>
To: HLAATech@...
Subject: [HLAATech] Devices or Apps that can assist HOH HAM (amateur) radio operators #communication
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 11:10:34 -0800

I am interested in compiling a list of devices and smartphone apps that can assist HAM radio operators with hearing loss. This is for handheld as well as mobile and base units. The environment can have a lot of background noise as we are looking at potential disaster conditions. 
--
Alan Katsura
akatsura@...
Moderator HLAA Tech Group