OTC Hearing Aids WITH Telecoils

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From: "Stephen O. Frazier" <hlaanm@...>
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Subject: [HLAATech] OTC Hearing Aids and Telecoils
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 15:52:38 GMT
Hi All - It appears I left out some critically important words in the earlier post on this matter. The Lexie Lumen hearing aids referred to in it are not the only OTC hearing aids available in stores - Best Buy alone carries 10 different models plus a $2,500 PSAP..The Lexie Lumen, though, is the only one that has telecoils. When you add the OTC models sold at Best Buy, Verizon, Walgreens, and even at the Hy-Vee supermarkets in some states, plus models available from a number of websites like CVS Cructfield etc., there's a plethora of OTC hearing aids to pick from BUT, still, only the Lexie Lumen has telecoils.If this news disturbs your, please click on the link below and share your comments re the absence of telecoils in the comment box available by scrolling down to the bottom of the screen...Photo of Best Buy OTC hearing aid display located in the cellular phone area. Contrary to Best Buy publicity, the "Blue Shirt" who helped me has had no training on the devices. When asked about it his response was, "There's a training video course but it's not mandatory so I haven't taken it."Stephen O. Frazier, Hearing Loss Support Specialist
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From: "Stephen O. Frazier" <hlaanm@...>
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Subject: [HLAATech] OTC Hearing Aids and Telecoils
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 15:52:38 GMT
Hi All - It appears that Lexie Lumen hearing aids are the only OTC FDA approved hearing aids (at Walgreen's) that are actually currently available over-the-counter in retail stores. I have commented on this on the Hearing Health and Technology Matters blog.Comments on the blog from advocates of hearing loops like you would help to make the OTC hearing aid industry aware of the need to address this this issue. You can visit the blog at:Stephen O. Frazier, Hearing Loss Support SpecialistPlease support theGET IN THE HEARING LOOPcampaign of theHearing Loss Association of America
It is deeply disturbing to
learn that an audiologist says that 'OTC hearing aids are not
safe'. It is a totally unscientific generalization. It is
possible that ANY hearing aid could cause additional hearing
loss. This is if it delivers a too loud sound, causing
'ringing in the ears' and that warning sign is ignored.
Dispensed hearing aids should be set so that is cannot occur,
but certainly my dispensed hearing aids can be set to 'play
too loud for comfort'. Just don't do it! If you hear sound 'in
your ear' rather than 'out in the room', the sound is too
loud, so turn it down.
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
What is the $2,500.00? My husband’s aids were under $1,800.00 at Costco and they had the booth and technician and custom hearing exam. Not over-the-counter and not covered by insurance e except for initial examination. So, I am wondering, do over the counter just amplify? Or do you test yourself and customize your custom over-the-counter devices using your computer?I’m just curious probably because my husband is losing his hearing. Does not have minor hearing loss.An audiologist said on her site that over-the-counter are not safe. So is HLAA in the proper position on this? Could be a disaster?Barbara
It is deeply disturbing to learn that an audiologist says that 'OTC hearing aids are not safe'. It is a totally unscientific generalization. It is possible that ANY hearing aid could cause additional hearing loss. This is if it delivers a too loud sound, causing 'ringing in the ears' and that warning sign is ignored. Dispensed hearing aids should be set so that is cannot occur, but certainly my dispensed hearing aids can be set to 'play too loud for comfort'. Just don't do it! If you hear sound 'in your ear' rather than 'out in the room', the sound is too loud, so turn it down.
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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2022-11-18 04:23, Barbara Cooledge wrote:
What is the $2,500.00? My husband’s aids were under $1,800.00 at Costco and they had the booth and technician and custom hearing exam. Not over-the-counter and not covered by insurance e except for initial examination. So, I am wondering, do over the counter just amplify? Or do you test yourself and customize your custom over-the-counter devices using your computer?I’m just curious probably because my husband is losing his hearing. Does not have minor hearing loss.An audiologist said on her site that over-the-counter are not safe. So is HLAA in the proper position on this? Could be a disaster?Barbara
If you search on-line, you will
find that everything is deemed unsafe by someone.
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
I’ve heard it may not be safe from two sources on-line. Sounds like it is just a problem if they are turned up too loud. And, supporters believe that the risk is worth it if it wards off diabetes, dementia, heart problems, etc. ?
On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 2:37 PM John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:
It is deeply disturbing to learn that an audiologist says that 'OTC hearing aids are not safe'. It is a totally unscientific generalization. It is possible that ANY hearing aid could cause additional hearing loss. This is if it delivers a too loud sound, causing 'ringing in the ears' and that warning sign is ignored. Dispensed hearing aids should be set so that is cannot occur, but certainly my dispensed hearing aids can be set to 'play too loud for comfort'. Just don't do it! If you hear sound 'in your ear' rather than 'out in the room', the sound is too loud, so turn it down.
======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2022-11-18 04:23, Barbara Cooledge wrote:
What is the $2,500.00? My husband’s aids were under $1,800.00 at Costco and they had the booth and technician and custom hearing exam. Not over-the-counter and not covered by insurance e except for initial examination. So, I am wondering, do over the counter just amplify? Or do you test yourself and customize your custom over-the-counter devices using your computer?I’m just curious probably because my husband is losing his hearing. Does not have minor hearing loss.An audiologist said on her site that over-the-counter are not safe. So is HLAA in the proper position on this? Could be a disaster?Barbara
If you search on-line, you will find that everything is deemed unsafe by someone.
======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2022-11-27 00:41, Barbara Cooledge wrote:
I’ve heard it may not be safe from two sources on-line. Sounds like it is just a problem if they are turned up too loud. And, supporters believe that the risk is worth it if it wards off diabetes, dementia, heart problems, etc. ?
On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 2:37 PM John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:
It is deeply disturbing to learn that an audiologist says that 'OTC hearing aids are not safe'. It is a totally unscientific generalization. It is possible that ANY hearing aid could cause additional hearing loss. This is if it delivers a too loud sound, causing 'ringing in the ears' and that warning sign is ignored. Dispensed hearing aids should be set so that is cannot occur, but certainly my dispensed hearing aids can be set to 'play too loud for comfort'. Just don't do it! If you hear sound 'in your ear' rather than 'out in the room', the sound is too loud, so turn it down.
======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2022-11-18 04:23, Barbara Cooledge wrote:
What is the $2,500.00? My husband’s aids were under $1,800.00 at Costco and they had the booth and technician and custom hearing exam. Not over-the-counter and not covered by insurance e except for initial examination. So, I am wondering, do over the counter just amplify? Or do you test yourself and customize your custom over-the-counter devices using your computer?I’m just curious probably because my husband is losing his hearing. Does not have minor hearing loss.An audiologist said on her site that over-the-counter are not safe. So is HLAA in the proper position on this? Could be a disaster?Barbara
If you search on-line, you will find that everything is deemed unsafe by someone.
======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2022-11-27 00:41, Barbara Cooledge wrote:
I’ve heard it may not be safe from two sources on-line. Sounds like it is just a problem if they are turned up too loud. And, supporters believe that the risk is worth it if it wards off diabetes, dementia, heart problems, etc. ?
On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 2:37 PM John Woodgate <jmw@...> wrote:
It is deeply disturbing to learn that an audiologist says that 'OTC hearing aids are not safe'. It is a totally unscientific generalization. It is possible that ANY hearing aid could cause additional hearing loss. This is if it delivers a too loud sound, causing 'ringing in the ears' and that warning sign is ignored. Dispensed hearing aids should be set so that is cannot occur, but certainly my dispensed hearing aids can be set to 'play too loud for comfort'. Just don't do it! If you hear sound 'in your ear' rather than 'out in the room', the sound is too loud, so turn it down.
======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2022-11-18 04:23, Barbara Cooledge wrote:
What is the $2,500.00? My husband’s aids were under $1,800.00 at Costco and they had the booth and technician and custom hearing exam. Not over-the-counter and not covered by insurance e except for initial examination. So, I am wondering, do over the counter just amplify? Or do you test yourself and customize your custom over-the-counter devices using your computer?I’m just curious probably because my husband is losing his hearing. Does not have minor hearing loss.An audiologist said on her site that over-the-counter are not safe. So is HLAA in the proper position on this? Could be a disaster?Barbara